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विश्व की पहली ट्रांसजेंडर प्रधानाचार्या ,बंगाल ट्रांसजेंडर सेल की प्रमुख, ट्रांसजेंडर पर पहला शोध देने वाली , अबोमनोब (शुभुमन) पहली बंगला ट्रांसजेंडर पत्रिका की सम्पादिका, A Gift of goddess Lakshmi की लेखिका मानोबी बंद्योपाध्याय के साथ एक बहुत शोधपूर्ण साक्षात्कार लिया है प्रियंका कुमारी नारायण ने. प्रियंका बीएचयू की शोध छात्रा हैं. यह साक्षात्कार उनकी पुस्तक ‘किन्नर : सेक्स और सामाजिक स्वीकार्यता’ का हिस्सा है- मॉडरेटर
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- सोमनाथ से मनोबी वंद्योपाध्याय तक आपके अनुभव क्या रहे हैं ? कैसा लगा मनोबी बनना और फिर उसके बाद के अनुभव ?
- सोमनाथ से मनोबी या मनोबी से सोमनाथ ऐसा मैं नहीं मानती | विज्ञान भी नहीं मानता क्योंकि गर्भ में तीन माह तक भ्रूण का निर्धारण नहीं होता है | तीन माह के बाद भ्रूण का निर्धारण होता है | तीन माह बाद ‘y’क्रोमोसोम के कारण क्लिटोरिस और पेनिस का निर्धारण होता है , पुरुष या स्त्री का निर्धारण होता है | आदि शक्ति महिला ही है | बाद में पुरुष का जन्म होता है |ब्रह्मा ,विष्णु महेश हिन्दू मिथकों में पुरुष शक्ति है लेकिन ‘दुर्गा शक्ति’, ‘चंडी’ का मिथ ट्रांसजेंडर का है | उनका क्रोमोसोम पुरुष मिथकों से आया है और वह महिषासुर का संहार करती है | एक स्त्री में इतना बल नहीं हो सकता है | ये हमारी सत्ता है | असल में मैं भावना से आत्मा से , विचार से मनोबी ही थी हूँ और रहूँगी | सोमनाथ तो सिर्फ एक शारीरिक भ्रम है | मैं नारी शक्ति हूँ |
- आपकी सोच सेक्स और प्यार को लेकर क्या रही है ?
- सेक्स और प्यार दोनों एक साथ है | कभी प्यार के बाद सेक्स है कभी सेक्स के बाद प्यार है | दोनों एक दूसरे के पूरक हैं | मैं पहले प्यार में विश्वास करती हूँ | मैं कभी प्लेटोनिक प्रेम में विश्वास नहीं करती | हाँ उसके बाद सेक्स आता है क्योंकि हम मानव शरीर हैं | कभी बारिश हो तो रोमांस आता है लेकिन सेक्स के बिना रोमांस भी अधूरा है | कभी ख़ुशी कभी गम दोनों साथ – साथ चलता है |
- ट्रांसजेंडर के अधिकांश बायोग्राफी चाहे वह लक्ष्मी नारायण त्रिपाठी का रहा हो या कुछ अन्य लोगों का, सेक्स को बहुत महत्व दिया जाता है ,ऐसा क्यों ?
- ऐसा इसलिए है क्योंकि हमारा समाज इससे अलग नहीं है | हमारे समाज में सेक्स खुल कर सामने न आये लेकिन इससे बहुत ऊपर की मानसिकता भी नहीं है हमारे समाज की | महाकाव्यों में देखें, शूर्पनखा के आकर्षण को ले, मत्स्यगंधा की कहानी या सती प्रथा के पीछे के कारणों पर गौर करें | शादी क्या है – सेक्स का एक प्रकार ही तो है | बनार्ड शॉ ने कहा कि “ विवाह कानूनन वेश्यावृत्ति है” लेकिन ‘कानूनन’|
- लेकिन कभी – कभी चर्चा चलती है कि जिस प्रकार कुछ लोगों ने ‘फेमिनिज्म’ के लिए लगन से काम किया लेकिन एक बड़ी संख्या ने उसका राजनीतिक इस्तेमाल किया तो क्या आप के यहाँ ‘सेक्स’ को राजनीतिक रूप से इस्तेमाल किया जा रहा है ? क्या ‘सेक्स’ के द्वारा ही आप अपनी जगह बनाना चाह रहे हैं , अपने को केंद्र में रखना चाह रहे हैं ? वास्तविकता क्या है ?
– देखिए कोई बोल रहा है ‘सेक्स पॉलिटिक्स’, कोई बोल रहा है ‘जेंडर पॉलिटिक्स’ | जिन्हें ‘सेक्स’ बोलने में हिचक है वो ‘जेंडर पॉलिटिक्स’ बोल कर निकल लेते हैं लेकिन मेरा मानना है दोनों एक ही है | आपके बनारस में ही देखिए न, सुबह से गंगा स्नान करते हैं और हिन्दू विधवाओं को जगह देने के नाम पर क्या होता है ? दीपा मेहता ने जब वाटर फ़िल्म बनाई तो हंगामा होने लगा लेकिन यह कितना क्रूर है | वहाँ वेश्यावृत्ति कराते हैं | अगर हम बोलेंगे तो कहेंगे अरे बाप ! हिजड़ा लोग तो सेक्स भी देखते हैं | इस सब में पुरोहित और समाज के वो भद्र लोग हैं जो समाज में सफ़ेद ज़िन्दगी जीते हैं | उन भद्र संयमित लोगों को कभी सेक्स कि जरूरत नहीं होती लेकिन बच्चा पैदा हो जाता है | उनके अनुसार ये तो भगवान ने दिया है लेकिन ये भगवान ने नहीं दिया न ये तो रात दिया | रात बाकी बात बाकी …ऐसा ही है | मेरा एक ट्रांसजेंडर दोस्त है जो बिहार में नाचता है वो हमेशा कहता है तुम क्या बनना चाहते हो ..भद्रलोक बनना चाहते हो लेकिन जानते हो इनके बीच क्या चलता है …दिन में भैया रात में सैंया | पॉलिटिक्स तो है ही सब पॉलिटिक्स है लेकिन ये समाज का पॉलिटिक्स है ,भद्र लोगों का , राजनेताओं का पॉलिटिक्स है | मैं इस पर क्या बोलूँ लेकिन मैं राजनीति नहीं बल्कि कार्यनीति में हूँ |
५. सेक्स अपने आप में एक बेहतरीन अनुभव है और यह बायोलॉजिकली भी शरीर के लिए जरूरी है | भारत में कामसूत्र , खजुराहो में इसे जीवन एक कला के रूप में दर्शाया गया है लेकिन हम अपने समाज में कभी भी इसे एक सामान्य ‘शारीरिक प्रक्रिया’ के रूप में नहीं स्वीकार कर पाते हैं और उसमें भी कोई लड़की या महिला इसके लिए बात करे तो यह शर्मनाक माना जाता है | आज बलात्कार की घटना बढ़ती जा रही है | आप क्या कहेंगी जबकि आपको खुद भी “मेन स्टैकर” और “सेक्स मैनियक” कहा गया ?
– देखिए हिम्मत करनी पड़ेगी | तस्लीमा नसरीन को देखिए | जिन वजहों से भी उन पर फतवा जारी किया गया , बांग्लादेश से निकाल दिया गया लेकिन वो फ्रांस जाकर रह रही थी| लडकियां ख़ुद बात नहीं कर पाती हैं | उन्हें हिम्मत जुटानी होगी | जब द्रौपदी महाकाव्यों में बोल रही है कि अर्जुन के साथ उसे कैसा लगता है ,युधिष्ठिर के साथ कैसा लगता है ,भीम कैसा लगता है …लेकिन जब महाकाव्यों में बोला जाता है तब वह संगम हो जाता है और सामान्य लोगों में आता है तब इसे गंदगी के रूप में लेते हैं ,कुछ ‘सेक्स मेनियक’ हैं वो सही नहीं है ,पतिता होना अलग है, लेकिन इसे गंदगी मानना सही नहीं है | ट्रांसजेंडर के साथ तो इसे और गलत तरीके से लिया जाता है | सेक्स वंश आगे बढ़ाने के लिए शुरू किया गया | हाँ ,ट्रांसजेंडर के साथ वंश वाली बात में समस्या है, वो अलग बात है , लेकिन इसमें विकृति सही नहीं है | सेक्स का इस्तेमाल बिल्कुल गलत दृष्टि से होता है | वात्स्यायन के यहाँ यह दर्शन है | और समाज सिर्फ बायोलॉजिकल को लेता है , यह सही नहीं है ,उसमें प्रेम और रोमांस होना जरूरी है | इन सब से ऊपर जाने के लिये मस्तिष्क को विकसित करने वाली शिक्षा होनी चाहिए तब ही हम निश्चित कर पाएंगे सही क्या है गलत क्या है |मैं तो ख़ुद विवेकानंद को मानती हूँ और उनके कर्मयोग और ज्ञानयोग में विश्वास करती हूँ लेकिन सेक्स को गलत नहीं मानती हूँ |
६ . बंगाल में तो काफ़ी ख़ुलापन है शायद देवी पूजन की अलग परम्परा के कारण लेकिन जैसे जैसे आप हिन्दी पट्टी की ओर बढ़ती हैं , ख़ासकर उत्तरप्रदेश , बिहार , मध्य प्रदेश, सेक्स को पुरुषों के द्वारा एक “टूल” के रूप में इस्तेमाल किया जाता है |स्त्रियों को मानसिक और शारीरिक दोनों ही स्तर पर हैरेस करने की कोशिश की जाती है | अभी भी वहाँ स्त्रियाँ मानसिक और शारीरिक रूप से स्वतंत्र नहीं है ,आप क्या कहेंगी ?
आप विदेशों में चले जाइये वहाँ स्वस्थ संबंध होता है | लेकिन ये प्रदेश पुरुष तंत्रात्मक है | वे एक स्त्री से संतुष्ट नहीं होते | उनकी कुलीनता और पुरुष होने की परिभाषा ही यही है | अन्नपूर्णा का विग्रह देखिए वो अन्न डालती हैं | पुरुष ऐसे ही है | खाने के समय और भूख के समय ही स्त्री के पास आते हैं | लेकिन लड़कियों को ख़ुद ही हिम्मत करनी होगी, लड़ना होगा, आगे आना होगा | जब तक वो ख़ुद पारम्परिक शिक्षा से हटकर अपने अधिकारों को नहीं जानेंगी कुछ नहीं होगा | लड़कियां भी आँचल में चाभी बांध कर खुश हो जाती हैं | उन्हें इस तरह के सोच से बाहर निकलना होगा | कह सकते हैं विपरीत से महिला तंत्र भी चल रहा है जो लडकियों के पैर खींचती हैं ,उन्हें भी सही से लड़कियों का सहयोग करना चाहिये | सब कुछ उनके अपनी ताकत को विकसित करने और समझने पर है |
७ .”A gift of goddess lakshmi “की लेखिका हमेशा समाज कि जबर्दस्त आलोचना का शिकार होती है | हमेशा कोर्ट रूम में आना जाना लगा रहता है और वो आपको कहते हैं –“झारग्राम का प्रसिद्ध हिजड़ा प्रोफेसर जो साड़ी पहनने का नाटक करती है और जिसका पेनिस साये के अन्दर छुपा है और औरत बनी फिरती हैं |” आपको “सेक्स मनियक” और “मेन स्टैकर” तक कहा गया | एक स्वतंत्र देश में एक अच्छे खासे शिक्षित प्रोफ़ेसर को जेंडर के स्तर पर इस तरह की प्रताड़ना झेलनी पड़ी ,ऐसे में आपके लिए “स्वतंत्रता” और “लोकतंत्र” के क्या मायने हैं ?
– देखिए ‘स्वतंत्रता’ और ‘लोकतन्त्र’ ये सब एक मिथ है हमारे लिए | हम एक वृत्त में हैं सीता की तरह जैसे सीता घेरे से बाहर निकली और रावण लेकर चला गया वैसे ही हम निर्वासित हैं और अपने घेरे में रहने को मजबूर हैं | इससे बाहर हमारे लिए बहुत जगह नहीं है | हाँ अपने घेरे में हम राजा – रानी हैं | अगर लोकतंत्र और आज़ादी की बात कर रहे हैं तो लडकियाँ इतनी परेशान क्यों हैं ? ट्रांसजेंडर इतने परेशान क्यों हैं ? बलात्कार पर नियंत्रण नहीं हो पा रहा हैं | आपकी इतनी बड़ी जनसंख्या प्रताड़ित है | असल में डेमोक्रेसी राजनेताओं का मुखौटा है | वो बतंगड़ ,बातेला है , रुपक है | ‘सदा सत्य बोलो | माता – पिता कि सेवा करो | सत्यमेव जयते | सब लिखने बोलने की बातें हैं | मानता कौन है ??
८ .यानी आपके लिए आज़ादी नहीं है ?
-रवीन्द्रनाथ का एक गाना है जिसमें कहा गया हम ख़ुद ही राजा है | ये हमारा आत्मविश्वास है | हाँ जिस दिन हमें स्वीकार कर लिया जायेगा तब हम मानेंगे कि हम स्वतंत्र हैं ,आजाद हैं |
९ . यानी अभी आप आजाद नहीं मानती ख़ुद को ?
नहीं |
१०. जब आपके ऊपर अरिन्दम (अभिजीत –यह नाम बायोग्राफी में नहीं है ) का केस चल रहा था और उस समय आपको यह जाँच कराना पड़ा कि सर्जरी के बाद आपका वेजीना पेनीट्रेशन और सेक्स के लायक है या नहीं और डॉक्टर्स और नर्स की भीड़, कैसा लग रहा था आपको ? कितना अपमानजनक था यह सब जबकि एक भीड़ आपके जेनिटल का निर्णय ले रही थी ?
– हाँ , जब यह सब सामने आ रहा था कि ‘पेनिट्रेट’ होता है या नहीं ,इन्टरकोर्स होता है कि नहीं ,मेरी हालत ख़राब हो गयी | मैं दिन – रात रोती थी | मैं नींद की गोलियां लेने लगी | मुझे होमोसेक्सुअल कहा जाने लगा | लेकिन मैं बस पत्नी बनना चाहती थी और प्रेम चाहती थी | लेकिन सब मुझे धोखा देते रहे |
११. आप अरिन्दम से बहुत प्यार करती थी और कमिटेड होना चाहती थी और यह आपके बचपने का प्रेम भी नहीं था, एक परिपक्व प्रेम था बावजूद ऐसा हुआ ?
– हाँ ! बस मैं प्रेम और परिवार चाहती थी केवल सेक्स नहीं लेकिन बदले में मुझे कोर्टरूम और तरह – तरह के डूब मरने वाले जाँच से गुजरना पडा सिर्फ अपनी सेक्सुअलिटी को प्रूव करने के लिए | मैं तो लड़कियों से बदतर रही |लगता था यह ज़िन्दगी क्यों मिली | मुझे होमोसेक्सुअल बोला गया ,मुझे गाली लगता था | हालाकि होमोसेक्सुअल की लड़ाई को मैं समर्थन देती हूँ लेकिन मैं ख़ुद होमोसेक्सुअल नहीं हूँ | मैं आत्मा से,दिल से लड़की हूँ, औरत हूँ |
१२. इसके ठीक बाद आप लिखती हैं कि डॉक्टर्स की टीम अवाक् थी कि उन्होंने क्या देखा है ? वे आपके ब्रेस्ट ,निप्पल और वेजिना सब जाँच रहे थे और स्तब्ध थे ,क्या लगा उस समय आपको जबकि उससे पहले एक मनोवैज्ञानिक ने आपका प्रेम संबंध ही बिखेर दिया था आपको बीमार घोषित करके ?
– हाँ ,ओल्ड स्कूल के डॉक्टर बहुत अलग हैं | वे बहुत पुरानी सोच रखते हैं लेकिन नये डॉक्टर अब ऐसी सोच नहीं रखते | वे बहुत अलग हैं | आज उनकी वजह से ही मैं अपनी ज़िन्दगी जी रही हूँ | हालाकि अभी भी पहले साइकि टेस्ट से गुज़रना पड़ता है उसके बाद हार्मोनल ट्रीटमेंट होता है | कुछ तो अभी भी पागल मानते हैं ,लेकिन ऐसा नहीं है | असल में वो मुख्य धारा के हैं जल्दी नहीं समझते | वो भी सोचते हैं कि इतना अच्छा पुरुष जीवन और शरीर है तुम स्त्री क्यों बनाना चाहते हो ?
१३. जब भी आप इस तरह के अपमान से गुजरती हैं आपकी एक्सैक्ट फीलिंग क्या होती है ?
– अरे फीलिंग को मत पूछिए,दिन – रात रोती रही हूँ | बस लगता है आज खुदखुशी कर लूं | कहाँ जाऊं | यहाँ तक कि लोग भी रास्ता देखते हैं कि मैं कब सुसाईड कर रही हूँ ? मेरे डॉक्टर को भी फ़ोन करके कहते हैं कि मैं मर गयी हूँ | अफ़वाह उड़ाते हैं मुझे लेकर | डॉक्टर फ़ोन करके पूछते हैं कि तुम ठीक तो हो !! हर रोज वो मेरे साथ इतना ख़राब व्यवहार करते हैं कि मैं दिमागी रूप से कमज़ोर पड़ कर आत्महत्या कर लूँ | मेरे प्रिंसिपल बनने से भी वो खुश नहीं हैं | कभी मुझ पर मार- पीट का आरोप लगाते हैं कभी कुछ का |
१४. लक्ष्मी नारायण त्रिपाठी भी कुछ ऐसा ही कहती हैं ?
– हाँ ,लेकिन वो मुख्य धारा का काम नहीं करती,सरकार का काम नहीं करती इसलिए उनकी समस्याएँ अलग हो सकती है ,मेरी बहुत अलग | मुझे एक चपरासी से भी सुनना पड़ जाता है | मुझे सीधे मध्यवर्गीय जड़ताओं और मूल्यों से टकराना पड़ता है | इन्हें झेलना सामान्य लड़कियों के लिए मुश्किल है ,मैं तो बहुत अलग हूँ आपके समाज में |
१५ . आप मंजूश्री चाकी (नृत्यांगना) के साथ भी थी | वहां आप कई ट्रांसजेंडर से मिलती हैं लेकिन वे अपना ‘ जेंडर ओरिएंटेशन’ सामने नहीं आने देना चाहते | अपने ‘एक्सप्रेशन’ को नृत्य में छुपा ले जाना चाहते हैं फिर वे किस तरह एक सामान्य ज़िन्दगी जिएंगे ? लेकिन ऐसे में उन्हें समाज में जगह कैसे मिलेगी | वे बाहर नहीं आयेंगे और अपनी लड़ाई लड़ेंगे,अपना जेंडर एक्सप्रेस नहीं करेंगे , हम उन तक पहुँच नहीं पाएंगे ?
देखिये जब आन्दोलन होता है तब शुरुआत में अकेले होते हैं | राजा राममोहन राय,विद्यासागर स्वामी विवेकानंद, ………टैगोर कहते हैं न कि जब तुम्हारा कोई न सुने तुम एकला चलो | बस एकला चलो फिर सब आ जायेंगे | लीडर अकेला ही लड़ता है फिर सब आ जाते हैं समय के साथ |
१६ . बटलर वर्ष १९९० में अपने प्रोजेक्ट ‘जेंडर ट्रबल’ में ट्रांसजेंडर को फेमिनिस्ट थ्योरी के अंतर्गत रखने कि वकालत करते हैं | उनके अनुसार यह ज्यादा आसान और स्वीकार्य होगा ट्रांसजेंडर को समाज में स्थान दिलाने में – आप क्या मानती हैं ?
वो भारत में बहुत मुश्किल है | महिलाएं ही ट्रांसजेंडर को स्वीकार नहीं कर पाएंगी | वो नहीं स्वीकार करेंगी |
आप क्या चाहती हैं ?
नहीं हो पायेगा | लड़कियां हमें गन्दा समझती हैं | हम साड़ी पहनती हैं लड़कियों को हमें देखकर शर्म आती है | वो नहीं समझती कि हम भी उन्हीं की तरह है | अलग तो हमें पहले से ही कर दिया गया है ठीक है अब थर्ड जेंडर आ गया है तो हम ख़ुद ही अलग हो गये हैं | अब हम पर निर्भर करता है कि हम क्या हैं ,क्या करेंगे, क्या पहनेंगे ?
१७. इन सबसे हटकर आप बेलूर मठ से दीक्षित हैं | स्वामी विवेकानंद को आप आदर्श मानती हैं | भारतीय परम्परा और स्वामी विवेकानंद से आपको क्या मिला ?
मैं विवेकानंद को बहुत मानती हूँ | उनके विचारों से मुझे लड़ने की ताकत मिलती है | मेरे जीवन को दिशा मिली उनके भाव आन्दोलन से | जब भी जीवन में अँधेरा हुआ उनके विचारों से दिशा मिली | मैं ज़िन्दा ही आज उनकी वजह से हूँ | मेरे जीवन के झंझावातों में बस वहीं सहयोगी रहे | यह कह सकने की बात नहीं है |
१८. और अंत में एक हिजड़ा को हिजड़ा कहना कितना सही है ?
बिल्कुल सही नहीं है | बहुत दुःख होता है | ट्रांसजेंडर ,थर्ड जेंडर नया टर्म है | लेकिन हाँ हिजड़ा शब्द तो निष्पाप था लेकिन इसका इस्तेमाल कर करके गाली बना दिया गया |
१९. तो क्या फिर से इसका इस्तेमाल कर करके इसे पवित्र नहीं बना देना चाहिये ?
– देखिए बिहार में छठ पूजा होता है ,हमें बहुत आदर के साथ बुला कर नचवाया जाता है लेकिन जैसे ही पूजा समाप्त होता है हमें हटाओ हटाओ कह कर हटा दिया जाता है | ऐसे ही सारे अवसरों पर होता है | शब्द में क्या है ,यह तो पवित्र ही है ,समाज ने इसे गाली बना दिया है फिर समाज ही इसे सुधार सकता है |
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Проверка информации о компании «Эсперио»
Не дайте мошенникам присвоить свои деньги!
Адрес и стаж как признаки мошенничества Esperio
Чарджбэк для возврата средств на карту
Отзывы о «Эсперио»
Схема развода «Эсперио»
Заключение
На первый взгляд у компании приличный мультиязычный сайт, а также достаточное количество юридической и прочей информации. Однако стоит начать всерьёз проверять легенду «Эсперио» — как она начинает рассыпаться на глазах.
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Проверка информации о компании «Эсперио»
Кладезем базовых юридических данных являются документы и футер сайта, заполненный очень мелким, слепым шрифтом. Поэтому удобнее обращаться к разделу «Правовая информация», который сослали на третий уровень интернет-ресурса, в категорию «О компании».
Первое, что бросается в глаза в этой самой правовой информации, это отсутствие обоих ключевых для каждого брокера документов:
скан-копии свидетельства о регистрации,
бланка лицензии на брокерскую деятельность.
Это настораживающий фактор, который сразу понижает степень доверия к Esperio. А ключевые сведения будем выяснять самостоятельно, перепроверяя отрывочную информацию из футера официального сайта и из шапки клиентского соглашения.
Как чёрный брокер Esperio маскируется под нормального
Итак, заявлено, что сайтом управляет компания OFG Cap. Ltd с регистрацией на Сент-Винсент и Гренадинах. Это островное офшорное государство давно является прибежищем сомнительных компаний, которые покупают местную регистрацию по вполне доступной цене. Однако для этого нужно предпринять хотя бы минимальный набор действий и подать скромный пакет документов.
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Проверить, было ли это сделано на самом деле, легко. Достаточно на сервисе info-clipper или подобном агрегаторе юридических лиц разных стран мира выбрать интересующее государство и ввести название компании. Если результат не найден, значит, такого юрлица в стране не зарегистрировано. Показываем на скриншоте, что брокер лжёт о своей якобы материнской компании (хотя формулировка про управление сайтом не тянет даже на подобный статус). Компания Esperio на островах также не зарегистрирована.
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Такой простой метод позволяет отсечь вымышленные координаты, которыми часто прикрываются мошенники, а также полюбоваться на заявленные места головных офисов. Этот простой метод не подвёл и с «Эсперио».
В футере сайта, а также в шапке клиентского договора указан один и тот же адрес на Сент-Винсент и Гренадинах: First Floor, First St. Vincent Bank Ltd Building, James Street, Kingstown. Здание действительно существует, и оно напрямую связано с финансовой системой. Находится в нём ровно то, что мошенники не удосужились вычистить из адреса: First St. Vincent Bank Ltd Building. То есть главный банк страны.
Несмотря на миниатюрность учреждения в карликовом государстве, офшорный банк не бедствует и уж точно не докатился до сдачи в аренду первого этажа здания всяческим проходимцам. Банкам по любым протоколам безопасности запрещается делить помещения с любыми арендаторами, поскольку это создаёт дополнительную уязвимость.
Ровно этим же адресом прикрылись лохоброкеры Pro Trend и Moon X. При этом признаков клонирования у этих ресурсов с Esperio нет, так что скорее мы имеем дело с новым популярным резиновым адресом. Выбор удачный: координаты ещё не растиражированы по сотням и тысячам сайтов, рисков, что на далёкий офшорный остров нагрянет русскоязычный клиент мало. Да ещё и поверхностная проверка через поисковик покажет, что адрес существует и там что-то про финансы. Так что для целей мошенников отлично подходит.
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Не менее полезно проверять реальный стаж компаний. В большинстве случаев его выдаёт доменное имя. Esperio уверяет, что работает на благо трейдеров с 2011 года, однако проверка по доменному имени изобличает эту ложь. Сайт esperio.org пустили в дело только в мае 2022 года. Это зеркало, как и все прочие засветившиеся на скриншоте Центробанка РФ доменные имена лжеброкера, созданы в середине 2021 года. То есть лоховозка работает не более 1 календарного года. Впрочем, это солидный срок: большинство её коллег не преодолевают рубежа в несколько месяцев. Однако речи о солидном стаже и соответствии заявленному в легенде 2011 году не идёт.
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Отсутствие документов
Назваться брокером недостаточно. Esperio было бы неплохо еще получить официальное разрешение на свою деятельность. Но Сент-Винсент и Гренадины как раз предпочитают те посредники, которым не хочется думать о лицензиях. FSA (регулятор в этой юрисдикции) не выдает подобным онлайн дилинговым центрам лицензии. И вообще он не ведет никакого надзора за их деятельностью.
На главной странице регулятора так и написано, что внесение в реестр — это не гарантия хорошей репутации компании. Российский Центробанк, например, вообще заблокировал сайт Esperio и внес фирму в черный список.
Выводы
Esperio зарегистрирован в офшорной зоне Сент-Винсент и Гренадин, что означает отсутствие контроля со стороны государственных органов. Кроме того, у него нет лицензии на осуществление брокерской деятельности. Торговать на таких площадках не стоит. Это легко обернется потерей капитала.
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Содержание статьи
Проверка информации о компании «Эсперио»
Не дайте мошенникам присвоить свои деньги!
Адрес и стаж как признаки мошенничества Esperio
Чарджбэк для возврата средств на карту
Отзывы о «Эсперио»
Схема развода «Эсперио»
Заключение
На первый взгляд у компании приличный мультиязычный сайт, а также достаточное количество юридической и прочей информации. Однако стоит начать всерьёз проверять легенду «Эсперио» — как она начинает рассыпаться на глазах.
«Вся Правда» приглашает разобрать компанию по косточкам, заодно потренировавшись выводить подобных лжеброкеров на чистую воду.
Проверка информации о компании «Эсперио»
Кладезем базовых юридических данных являются документы и футер сайта, заполненный очень мелким, слепым шрифтом. Поэтому удобнее обращаться к разделу «Правовая информация», который сослали на третий уровень интернет-ресурса, в категорию «О компании».
Первое, что бросается в глаза в этой самой правовой информации, это отсутствие обоих ключевых для каждого брокера документов:
скан-копии свидетельства о регистрации,
бланка лицензии на брокерскую деятельность.
Это настораживающий фактор, который сразу понижает степень доверия к Esperio. А ключевые сведения будем выяснять самостоятельно, перепроверяя отрывочную информацию из футера официального сайта и из шапки клиентского соглашения.
Как чёрный брокер Esperio маскируется под нормального
Итак, заявлено, что сайтом управляет компания OFG Cap. Ltd с регистрацией на Сент-Винсент и Гренадинах. Это островное офшорное государство давно является прибежищем сомнительных компаний, которые покупают местную регистрацию по вполне доступной цене. Однако для этого нужно предпринять хотя бы минимальный набор действий и подать скромный пакет документов.
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Проверить, было ли это сделано на самом деле, легко. Достаточно на сервисе info-clipper или подобном агрегаторе юридических лиц разных стран мира выбрать интересующее государство и ввести название компании. Если результат не найден, значит, такого юрлица в стране не зарегистрировано. Показываем на скриншоте, что брокер лжёт о своей якобы материнской компании (хотя формулировка про управление сайтом не тянет даже на подобный статус). Компания Esperio на островах также не зарегистрирована.
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Анна 03/20/2021 14:03
Даже уголовные дела , которые ведутся против создателя ЦБТ Телетрейд, не могут заставить одуматься сотрудников этой конторки. По какой-то причине они держатся за Центр Биржевых Технологий. Скорее всего играет свою роль то, что ТТ выплачивает им премии с каждого ученика, которого Центр Биржевых Технологий направил терять свои деньги к ним. Ну и конечно не нужно забывать про то, что после этой обучающей компании никого из этих сотрудников ни одна адекватная компания на работу не возьмет. Конечно, многим нужны бессовестные менеджеры, но не те, кто чудом избежал обвинения в соучастии ограбления.
Руслан 03/19/2021 20:03
Беспринципность ЦБТ просто поражает. Мало того, что Центр Биржевых Технологий свою обучающую программу ухудшает каждый год, в чем я и мои друзья уже убедились на собственном опыте, так он по-прежнему посылают своих учеников терять деньги в Телетрейд, эту финансовую пирамиду, которая их когда-то создала. А ведь на ТТ заведены уголовные дела как раз из-за воровства финансов клиентов и Центр Биржевых Технологий это прекрасно знает и понимает. Но они продолжают свою деятельность и даже не думают останавливаться
Владимир 03/18/2021 12:03
Я видел разные отзывы про Центр Биржевых Технологий, и разные ответы представителей этой компании на те отзывы, но то, что в последнее время сочиняет эта компания, на голову не налазет! Это ЦТБ является активным участником мошеннических схем на пару с Телетрейд, это ваша фирма кидает людей на деньги, даже Нац. Комиссия предостерегает людей от сотрудничества в этой компанией, а вы обвиняете в этом какое-то агентство, каких-то людей! Центр Биржевых Технологий переходит всякие рамки дозволенного! Все в этой фирме должны быть притянуты к уголовной ответственности!
Василий 12/07/2017 07:12
Прикольно, что у нас есть такие компании, которые обучают торговать. Я ходил в центр биржевых технологий на обучение в прошлом месяце. Все курсы длились две недели. За это время нам рассказали о том, как устроен рынок форекс и как на нем торговать. Очень понравилась стратегия бетмен и то, как ее можно применять на выходе из бокового движения. В общем буду практиковаться. Еще понравилось то, что офис расположен в центре и удобно доехать до него как на машине, так и на метро, пару раз приходилось:-). Катя молодец, как препод знает информацию и дает много практических советов в торговле. В общем я остался доволен. Что кусается, так это цена. Заплатил за курсы 4000 грн, но с другой стороны знания того стояли. В общем, знания дают толковые.
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Алекс 03/26/2019 16:03
Левый коммент в стиле ЦБТ. Они любят себе везде писать хорошие комменты на ютюбе. Только вот просчитались немного с городом, ляпнули киевский коммент в Одессу. Или я живу в Одессе на другой планете, где метро нет и никогда не будет ))))
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Станислав 11/20/2017 04:11
В прошлом году я устроился на работу в центре биржевых технологий в Одессе, офис у них на вице адмирала Жукова, 14, недалеко от греческой площади. Офис конечно красивый они себе сделали, видно, что новый, хотя я слышал, что это все здание их, но побывать на других этажах, кроме столовой мне не довелось. Теперь о самой работе. Я работал консультаном, меня обучали торговать на демо счете, и потом это обучение давать клиентам, которые приходили научиться торговать. Могу сказать, что обучение здесь хорошее, потому што я потом торговал на демке и делал хороший результат, даже думал открывать себе реал, но не сложилось. Колектив тоже хороший, все молодые люди, больше парней, хотя девушки тоже есть, но директор Дмитрий был против них, говорил, что они разлагают дисциплину. Еще я проводил там лекции для клиентов, хотя они меня напрягали, так как я боюсь публики и это было в напряг для меня. Зарплата была нормальная, ставка и бонусы от обучения, так что на жизнь немного хватало. Единственное, что бесило так это постоянные планы и задачи на день. Директор собирал нас каждое утро с другими менеджерами и постоянно устраивал разборы полетов, а почему клиенты мало сделок делают, почему практикантов мало, а то, что не от куда их было брать, ведь у нас народ не очень любит учится его это не волновало. Именно поэтому я и уволился, так как он сел на шею и вечно давил, план, план, план, а сам для этого ничего не делал. Я слышал, что там сейчас другой директор – возможно что-то поменялось.
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hone 03/07/2017 19:03
Доброго всем дня!я работал в так называемой компании центр биржевых технологий а по старому они назывались телетрейд и я вам скажу что это просто шарашкина кантора,которая за счет своих клиентов построила себе 5-ти этажный бизнес центр WS ))) вы только посмотрите какое громкое название WS(Wall Street) и еще рядом 3-х этажную гостиницу.Такие шарлатаны как они должны сидеть в тюрьме. В этой компании работают как они любят себя называть профессионалы с большой буквы а на самом деле просто полнейшие дилетанты,там безусловно есть талантливые ребята которые работают и еще не разобрались в какой гадючник они попали но когда они поймут то сразу уходят от них .Они заманивают к себе большой зарплатой но по факту они находят кучу причин оштрафовать вас на 50 или 100 $ при ЗП 300 и при этом еще говорят скажи спасибо что не 150$ Я имел счастье общаться с многими начальниками но там есть такие уникумы что просто нет слов.Самый большой начальник в “” это Эльвира Александровна большая шишка которая практически все рабочее время проводила в салоне красоты на маникюре или выщупывала себе брови или Леонид начальник компьютерного отдела который думает что он самый умный и ходит по центру как напыщенный индюк и полирует свою лысину до блеска .Я надеюсь что наша милиция в скором будущем возьмется за вас и вы получите за все так сказать хорошее что вы сделали…
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ghost 04/29/2017 06:04
всем доброго дня! хочу вас предупредить что бы вы не шли работать в телетреид особенно на 4 этаж там работает упырь по имени лёня да да именно с маленькой буквы “л”,он думает что он самый умный а на самом деле он один из самых тупых людей которого я только видел а я видел очень многих людей. Он крутит мутит что то свое и при этом руководство даже не догадываеться что этот мудак делает с деньгами компании
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